Martin Bester and Tumi Morake hosted advocate Thuli Madonsela at Jacaranda FM on their breakfast show this morning.
Madonsela, who served as public protector of South Africa from 2009 to 2016, was interviewed on her thoughts around the ANC, the investigation into Nkandla, the #GuptaLeaks scandal and the upcoming Standard Bank Business Breakfast where she’ll be speaking later this month.
Her talk at the event is going to be about making a difference where you can, she said. “A lot of us these days are so fixated on what’s wrong, who’s doing wrong things, but the truth is this country moved forward during Apartheid because there were a lot of people that were working towards moving us forward, in the areas of business, areas of personal development. Ultimately, even in the area of corruption, we should stop talking and start doing.”
The most popular question that came in from the station’s listeners was why she isn’t running for president. While she is passionate about social justice, she has “no ambition in that direction” and believes her “skills lie elsewhere”.
That said, she believes the ticking bombs of our time are gross inequality and extreme poverty, and that accountability is the one thing we need most.